Just Listen.

I’ve been doing a lot of business growing and reorganizing lately

So I’ve been chatting with a few advisors to help me work on it.

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(Which may make some of my clients chuckle -

We advisors need advisors too!

The universe is really just advisors all the way down

But I digress... )

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Anyway, this week I was sitting on an intro call with a fellow I recently met here in NYC

They had so much to say...

  • About how I could fix my business.

  • How I could run it like they did theirs.

  • How the solutions were easy.

  • How I could make so much more money.

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What they didn’t do-

Was Listen.

To anything I actually said about my firm.

(Especially the stuff that didn't match the coaching program they were selling :-/ )

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Here’s the thing:

I’m sure they know SO MUCH about how to run a firm,

About how to maximize for their business objectives.

But those objectives aren’t mine.

Their situation isn’t mine.

Their talents aren't mine.

Their challenges aren't mine.

So I just left the call feeling like I'd wasted 30 minutes.

As a buyer, the question I left with wasn't, "Is this person worth their price?"

It was, “Can I squeeze anything useful out of that conversation?”

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I’ve been a consultant for much of my career.

But when I think about the advisors I strive to emulate—

Most of them aren’t business consultants at all.

Most are actually psychotherapists (Esther Perel & Orna Guralnik ❤️)

And radio hosts (Terry Gross ❤️)

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Even as I grow my own fledgling podcasting career,

I think I can feel myself becoming a better advisor because of it.

Because learning to be a good interviewer teaches you how to listen.

  • To what someone is actually saying

  • To what they’re afraid of

  • What they value

  • What excites them

  • What they hate

  • Where they’ve been

  • Where they want to go next

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It’s actually made me a little extra suspicious of advisors who lead with “I’ve done it before.”

Because that doesn't make them the host -

It makes them the guest.

The person with a lot of interesting answers.

Their answers.

Not necessarily yours.

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Sometimes “done it before” just means running the same playbook.

But what got you there

Won’t necessarily get your clients where they want to go next.

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If you want to help others shine,

You have to close your playbook for a minute.

And you have to just

Listen.

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